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Andre

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 2375 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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apperntly that new galaxy advert with the spoons is racist _________________ email: andrecompton@hotmail.com |
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Angel
Age: 30 Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 1304 Location: Camberley
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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havent seen it explain man! im intruiged |
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Andre

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 2375 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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i dunno how tis racist its fucking dumb
no one has actually explained it!
ok moving on
what about kilroy should he have been put off air _________________ email: andrecompton@hotmail.com |
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Angel
Age: 30 Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 1304 Location: Camberley
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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yer I think he shouldve, they have to crack the whip if they want to get racism out of the country. When Big Ron Atkinson was fired, that was propaganda, as he didn't publically say it. It's showing the public that racism cannot be acceppted in our society.
Anyway i'm off, went to bed at 4 for the past 2 days, early morning 2 moz. goodnight andre/ matt d/ woodenboy! |
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woodenboy

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 1687 Location: Berkshire
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matt d

Age: 30 Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 2805 Location: Leeds/ Camberley
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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same here. night all. _________________ Try to keep your composure, I'm only having a laugh. |
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Andre

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 2375 Location: Florida
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Robs

Age: 33 Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Bolton/Manchester
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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this had potential as a brilliant thread
and you've all ruined it... |
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Andre

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 2375 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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no it was at its prime adn before it died we changed the subject _________________ email: andrecompton@hotmail.com |
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Matt/Dave

Age: 32 Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 3661 Location: Tunbridge Wells/Leeds
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I'm going back to the BNP teacher, as far as I see it he shouldn't be considered to walk as a bin man let alone a teacher. Biggot scum the lot of them. It's all fine having your own views but if you're going to actively involve yourself in 'spreading the word' then you shouldn't have that kind of position.
Andre wrote: | well thats a load of shit cos its like fireing a muslim teacher who is a veggie |
What a load of bollocks, these are completely different things. My mum's a vegie but doesn't really pose a threat to any one does she? She doesn't encourage racial hated against meat eaters does she? Bloody hell if you're going to make a comparrison make a decent one. |
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Robs

Age: 33 Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Bolton/Manchester
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 10:53 am Post subject: |
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lil loner dave wrote: | I'm going back to the BNP teacher, as far as I see it he shouldn't be considered to walk as a bin man let alone a teacher. Biggot scum the lot of them. It's all fine having your own views but if you're going to actively involve yourself in 'spreading the word' then you shouldn't have that kind of position.
Andre wrote: | well thats a load of shit cos its like fireing a muslim teacher who is a veggie |
What a load of bollocks, these are completely different things. My mum's a vegie but doesn't really pose a threat to any one does she? She doesn't encourage racial hated against meat eaters does she? Bloody hell if you're going to make a comparrison make a decent one. |
hmmmm you are kind of sweeping the board there, arent you...
i dont agree with the BNP
i think they are a bunch of arses...
but hes a maths teacher
and if we start firing people because of their beliefs and ideals... this country is going to go to shit
its just like stopping all christians teaching because there might be muslims in their class
or stopping all conservatives teaching because they might offend people who vote labour
etc etc |
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Matt/Dave

Age: 32 Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 3661 Location: Tunbridge Wells/Leeds
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Again it's a poor comparrison. A Christian may be a Christian but it doesn't mean they actively dislike other religions does it? If someone was to start preaching that we should get rid of all other religions as we're the best would you give them a teaching job? Would you like to put children with the Christian version of Bin Laden & co?
If the teacher just held racist views than there's not much you can do. But if he's an active member of a right wing extremist party then he's obviously not out to keep his views to himself is he? He'll be looking to spread them, him being in a school is not a good idea.
Please, if anyone else wants to critisise my point of view with a hypothetical comparrison please make sure it's on the same level. |
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Robs

Age: 33 Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Bolton/Manchester
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:49 am Post subject: |
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lil loner dave wrote: | Again it's a poor comparrison. A Christian may be a Christian but it doesn't mean they actively dislike other religions does it? If someone was to start preaching that we should get rid of all other religions as we're the best would you give them a teaching job? Would you like to put children with the Christian version of Bin Laden & co?
If the teacher just held racist views than there's not much you can do. But if he's an active member of a right wing extremist party then he's obviously not out to keep his views to himself is he? He'll be looking to spread them, him being in a school is not a good idea.
Please, if anyone else wants to critisise my point of view with a hypothetical comparrison please make sure it's on the same level. |
god you're an arrogant fucker arent you
who is to say that a christian teacher wouldnt victimise a muslim in the class? no one
just because someone is a christian, doesnt mean they are a saint
just because someone is in the BNP, doesnt mean they are going to start screaming "KILL ALL THE FUCKING NIGGERS!" in the middle of a maths lesson
throwing someone out of a job because of their political ideals is a fucking joke. Conservatives dont agree with Labour on a LOT of things... ok so they arent as extreme as the rascist comments as the BNP, but an idealogical difference is an idealogical difference.
if youve seen The People vs Larry Flynt or know the story, this is the exact same thing. He made a porn mag, and was locked up and censored because quite a few people thought he had taken it too far
just because you dont agree with the BNP (i dont either, i think its all bullshit), the whole point of democracy is that you have to put up with things you dont agree with
just because you dont agree with the BNP, doesnt mean you can start throwing them out of jobs because they might be teaching their ideals to children
the BNP has as the EXACT same amount of rights as the tories, labour, lib dems and the green party do
if a conservative can teach
a BNP member can teach
if you ban one but allow the other, that is discrimination
yes, the BNP talk utter shite and are rascist cunts, but they have as much right to campaign against foreigners as we do to campaign against them being rascist fuckers
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Matt/Dave

Age: 32 Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 3661 Location: Tunbridge Wells/Leeds
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Okay you seem to be blind so let me highlight part of my post.
If the teacher just held racist views than there's not much you can do. But if he's an active member of a right wing extremist party then he's obviously not out to keep his views to himself is he? He'll be looking to spread them, him being in a school is not a good idea.
If he's a racist then that's his choice. But by joining the BNP he's become actively involved in promoting racism. This means he's obviously interested in teaching his views to other, so why should he be allowed to work with children? Of course there is a possiblity he will keep his job and political ideal seperate, but then theres a possbility he won't. By being in the BNP, he's proven he wants to encourage racist attitudes so the chances he will try and preach his ideals increase.
Secondly stop comparing the BNP to other political parties. The Torries may be right wing but they've never promoted rasism or anything on the same level. Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dems and most others are respectable parties with well thoguht through ideas and are looking to make a difference for the better. The members are intellectuals and respectable people. The BNP are just rascist thugs trying to be politicians but failing miserably. Many high level BNP members have been seen engaging in acts of vanadlism and abuse against ethnic minorities. Don't go saying they're the same as any other political party because they're not. It's people like them which create the view that you should only have freedom to express your views if you deserve to express them. There are no solid groundings behind thie ideals, they're just biggots.
Finally don't go insulting me then spurting out a load of half arsed arrogant crap. If you want ot make a point make a decent one because quite frankly you look like a bit of a twat at the moment.[/b] |
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Robs

Age: 33 Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Bolton/Manchester
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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ok
i wont start going into huge letters
because... well... i have a brain...
but
therefore, is it ok for an active conservative to be teaching?
my english teacher was an active conservative
he didnt get fired
and you are missing the point ENTIRELY
yes the BNP are rascist
that is besides the fucking point
the point is, they have as much right as they want to be rascist, and we shouldnt be allowed to censor them
its for the people of the country to decide whether its right or wrong
most will think its wrong
but thats beside the point
the BNP have every right to say what they say
Quote: | There are no solid groundings behind thie ideals, they're just biggots. |
what solid groundings are there for whether universities should give grants to students or not?
non
its all opinion
what solid groundings do the BNP have that all foriegn people shoudlnt be allowed in the country?
non
its all opinion
you can NOT censor their opinion, even if it is bullshit
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